Risking Romance Again-Dating after divorce
Views on divorce and dating for christians
Divorce is a difficult subject for Christians. It’s unlikely that any Christian would want to promote divorce per se and it’s obvious that it’s a difficult issue for the church. Furthermore, remarriage of divorcees is also hotly debated with strong feelings and emotions pertaining to all sides of the discussion. It’s easy to take a view on this subject if you haven’t been affected by it. But as soon as we meet someone who is, or we are ourselves, we see the issues are complex and not as clear cut for Christians as perhaps a few well known verses of Scripture would imply. Whether we like it or not it’s a very real issue in our society today and one we should give some thought and prayer to.
A number of people responded to our request for their views on the subject and here are some of them. (The names have been changed.)
Anne writes
‘As a Christian myself I tried for years to avoid divorce. My Catholic upbringing meant that I was categorically against divorce, and also I have known, in a very personal way, of the lasting damage to children, when parents divorce. However, in my marriage I suffered verbal abuse intermittently over many years, from the husband I loved; as time went by, the ‘Jekyll and Hyde’ mood swings became apparent. I stayed in the marriage for over 20 years, praying constantly, hoping we could work things out, and trying to support our 3 children through the stormy rides.
After 24 years I broke; deep down my emotions could take no more of ‘living on a volcano’ as I describe it. His rages interacted with my depressions.
In Christian terms – though I can’t quote chapter and verse – ‘A man should not divorce his wife except in the case of adultery’. If one re-words this, to read ‘a married person should not divorce their partner, except in the case of adultery’ then this applies, in my case. Adultery came on top of the years enduring rages. If, as Jesus said, He came to bring Life in all its fullness, then I believe that I, as a child of God, I should reclaim my individuality, my talents, all that makes me the person I was born to be. And this, in the service of God and truth.’
‘Are we frightened of confronting the reality of divorce’ asks Joan?
‘I am going through the divorce process unwillingly and struggle with feelings of guilt and shame both for myself, my Christian faith, my family and the church community. (We were married for over 20 years and worked in many churches during that time) There seems to be so much prejudice around amongst Christians. Perhaps it is just that people don’t know what to say or do. I am a good mother to 3 lovely children and do my utmost to give them a stable, happy Christian home. It seems too that some married Christians view you as an oddity or threat, perhaps marriage breakdown is catching? I also think that marriage breakdown/divorce is a worse bereavement than death because the person who died DIDN’T CHOOSE TO LEAVE YOU. The partner who is living down the road with his new partner and child DID (He by the way is a practicing Christian).’
And a very different perspective from Lynne who comes from an Orthodox church background.
‘I am in the process of being divorced myself – sadly after 40 years of marriage! My 65-year-old husband has, over the last 8 years or so, had a succession of Latvian girlfriends, where he goes on business. I have tried to put up with this, but it has finally come to the crunch and he has demanded an end to our marriage, which is devastating for me and our children.
I belong to the Eastern Orthodox Church, which accepts divorce for the cause of adultery (see Matt. 5:32). This is not a modern concession but has been part of our teaching and church life since the early centuries. This is useful for Western Christians to know, since many seem to think divorce is a purely modern innovation for Christians.
Our Church grants a church divorce, and allows remarriage in church – with certain penitential prayers replacing the joyful ones. This should be after a period of 3 years’ spiritual retraining. I should point out that our wedding ceremony is very different from the familiar Western one. We do not make vows (no ’till death us do part’). We are crowned a king and queen of a new colony of the Kingdom, and the life-long commitment of marriage is expressed in a circular procession. But we do acknowledge that our human endeavours may fall short of what they should be.
In the Early Church adultery, together with murder and apostasy, was one of the three sins punishable by automatic excommunication until the person repented and was reconciled with the Church. This is still the principle behind our thinking, and the fact that we allow divorce is, we understand, God’s concession to our fallen life. My church has been very supportive throughout my last unhappy years, and will continue to support me fully during and after my divorce.’
Quiet a bit to ponder on there! We hope these persepctives give you food for thought – or help you realise you are not alone if you are in a similar situation. We’d love to hear your views on this subject too or the views of your friends! Email them to us at editors@friends1st.co.uk
The effects of a good deed – what goes around comes around
His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish farmer. One day, while
trying to make a living for his family, he heard a cry for help coming
from a nearby bog. He dropped his tools
and ran to the bog.
There, mired to his waist in black muck, was a terrified boy,
screaming and struggling to free himself. Farmer Fleming saved the lad
from what could have been a slow and terrifying death.
The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up to the Scotsman’s sparse
surroundings. An elegantly dressed nobleman stepped out and introduced
himself as the father of the boy Farmer Fleming had saved.
“I want to repay you,” said the nobleman. “You saved my son’s life.”
“No, I can’t accept payment for what I did,” the Scottish farmer
replied waving off the offer. At that moment, the farmer’s own son came
to the door of the family hovel.
“Is that your son?” the nobleman asked.
“Yes,” the farmer replied proudly.
“I’ll make you a deal. Let me provide him with the level of education
my own son will enjoy If the lad is anything like his father, he’ll no
doubt grow to be a man we both will be proud of.” And that he did.
Farmer Fleming’s son attended the very best schools and in time,
graduated from St. Mary’s Hospital Medical School in London , and went
on to become known throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander
Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin.
Years afterward, the same nobleman’s son who was saved from the bog was
stricken with pneumonia.
What saved his life this time? Penicillin.
The name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill … His son’s name?
Sir Winston Churchill.
Someone once said: What goes around comes around.
Sex before marriage?
Sex before marriage
I was brought up in a religious tradition that strongly taught no sex before marriage. From what I remember it really was that simple. There was little discussion of what happened if you fell in love at an early age – ie before marriage was acceptable, or perhaps didn’t get married until you were in your mid 30s or even later – or any of the other scenarios that might conceivably make the ‘rule’ not quite as simple as it appeared at first glance.
In the past week two things have happened which have really made me think harder about the subject – not so much as to what is the right teaching, but more to how the principle is taught – a principle I guess I agree with although definitely not the way I was taught it. I wish what I experienced over the past week had been something I could have experienced or learnt some 20 odd years ago.
Firstly I was reading the book ‘On The Third Day’ by Piers Paul Read (which I’d highly recommend and can be found in our online bookstore). In it a young Catholic monk just months away from his final vows experiences something that changes the course of his life and leads him into the arms and bed of a very close female friend. In the morning he orders breakfast in bed saying that he’d always dreamed of that – ie breakfast in bed on the first morning of one’s honeymoon. The girl is surprised, and asks if this then is their honeymoon, to which he replies that they are surely married having slept together the night before. They confirm their mutual desire to be married and with a kiss he says “Then I pronounce us man and wife.” Later on she challenges his seriousness about getting married to which he replies – “We can’t get married. We are married” and continues to explain, seeing her confusion: “It’s theologically sound. The church only blesses a marriage. The state only registers it. A marriage itself is made between two people who commit themselves to one another forever.”
This view of marriage – and how it affects the seriousness of sex before marriage in the statement of a reality, is totally consistent with the view of marriage described in Rev David Robertson’s book – ‘Marriage – Restoring our Vision’ (also available in our bookstore) – ie that marriage is what two people commit to by their words or deads – and not what any institution pronounces. I wish I had been taught that as a teenager/young adult – it would have made quite a big difference to how I viewed my boyfriends of the time.
And then last Sunday I met this lovely lady who told me her story of her forthcoming second marriage (her first having failed and ended in amicable divorce). She was going to be marrying her childhood sweetheart – her first love (mutually reciprocated) when she was 15 (and the boy 16). For whatever reasons they hadn’t got married but had remained incredibly close (she being God mother to his 2 children). His marriage too had failed (not with any connection to their friendship) and months afterwards it was suggested they move closer together, and in the process the idea of marriage came up – and suddenly the friendship was transformed into the deep love that had always been there. In many ways such a sad story because it’s so obvious now that they should have got married in the first place – and sad for all the loss and breakup that two divorces cause – but amazingly heart warming as well in the sense that perhaps having pledged true love to each other at such an early age – perhaps they were married then (not that they slept together at that point!)
It seems a shame to me that the church (at least in my experience) is so obsessed with sex – and perhaps frightened of it mainly- that it preaches a ‘no sex before marriage’ message with all the focus on the sex and so little focus on the reality of two people’s commitment to each other. Perhaps if there was more focus on the commitment and true meaning of this commitment – ie it being a marriage, then the sex would look after itself.
10 Steps To Changing Your Life
Step 5: Think about it and speak about it all the time
Goal setting and new agendas help you to stay focused on what you want to achieve. They will lead and direct you toward the place you want to end up. So if you want to make new friendships set yourself goals and stay focused on them. Think of how you can achieve that ultimate destination and what you can do to make the very best of yourself. Focus on being a better friend to others and you will become even more appealing yourself. Make the most of your friendsfirst membership by being proactive and being genuinely interested in others when you make that first contact. Phillipians 4:8 says, ‘Whatever is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable, excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things.’
Necessary Endings
Following the recent article in our members newsletter, Lock away the past and unlock the future, we have added a book to our bookshop (in both relationships and divorce categories) which has been recommended by a member. Necessary Endings by Dr Henry Cloud is “brilliant and relevant -the idea is that new things can’t begin until the old is let go of”. To buy it or browse our bookshop just click here.
Never Too Far Away
Andy has just called us to let us know that he has found someone special with friendsfirst. He felt he just had to let us know as they had both complained to us that they hadn’t received the details of anyone local to them. Indeed Andy had even put on his profile that he would prefer to meet someone local and was adamant that he wouldn’t consider contacting anyone further afield. But when Caroline spoke to Dawn about her profiles she encouraged her to email Andy, despite her misgivings about the distance between them and what his profile said. Caroline and Andy are very happy with the outcome of that e mail and Dawn will be raising a glass to them this weekend. We have asked them to write their story, as further encouragement for all our members.
10 Steps to Changing Your Life
Step 4: Surround yourself with a great team
Having help and support – the right team – is one of the most crucial steps in realising your dream. You may not wish to share your hopes and dreams and the goals you have set yourself to achieve them with friends and family. The staff at friendsfirst are here to help, encourage and support you. Let us help you to find someone special.
A FRIENDSFIRST GUIDE…
We’re getting some great feedback about our short guide to..HOW TO BECOME MORE ATTRACTIVE TO OTHERS AND HAVE MORE MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS – “Good sound advice not only for relationships but also getting on with people generally.” To get your copy just click here to complete our Singles Survey and give us your thoughts on being single. (http://surveys.questionpro.com/akira/TakeSurvey?id=2509688).
Sharing
When we look at our lives and think about the friendships we have made over the years, those that we have been closest to are those with whom we have shared the most. We have shared our experiences, our work, our hospitality, our interests, hobbies and skills, our time, our hopes and dreams, our upsets and disappointments – our journey in life. To enjoy close, lasting friendships we have to be prepared to make ourselves vulnerable, to share ourselves and to care about others. We may have been hurt in the past and have closed all the doors to our hearts as a result. Open those doors wide open. Lean on Him and He will give you the strength to put past hurts behind you and share new friendships.